QUOTE (z3r0x;85918)
http://forums.filefront.com/sw-eaw-modding...ut-hell-up.html
By Daft Vader..
Reposted here by ME
Quote:
Hi all
I've been in this community for a while and i'd like to think i was a respected member of it. I've followed many mods from the start and seen them rise to greatness, without yet being completed. However, recently i've been seeing RAW and following it too, but i am now FURIOUS at whats been happening.
Now dont get me wrong, raw IS a good mod by some of the best modders in the community, and i think it will be one of the best mods for EAW. But will you all please shut the fuck up about it.
Everywhere i go i see a fucking hoard of fanboys begging z3r0x for a titbid of information, or to show them something they've seen a million times before.
Dudes, let him finish the mod.
It really pisses me off to see so many idiots clamoring for information about the mod which, althought it'll be good, wont meet your expectations. If you make up in your mind that it'll be the best mod ever, you may find yourselves dissapointed, so just calm it and let rox finish the mod
Now, copycats.
I know you all want a good clone wars mod, and there are two coming to you. Thrawns Revenge: Fall of the Republic and also Republic at war. Now why not just WAIT a few fucking months and get a DECENT mod, instead of your own crappy slapdash using the same shit every other bugger has used before???
What makes RAW and FOTR stand out from all the other clone wars mods is that they have unique stuff, that hasnt been used before. RAW does use warlords models, which have been largely used before, but they also use some new ones. The Thrawns revenge mod is even better, becuase they make their OWN models. They dont scrounge off of mods like z3r0x FOC addon, (The credits of which were hazy), and caus a fucking legal battle.
Will all of you just wait for these mods for gods sakes. They'll be better than you can make. Patience is a virtue.
Now, my final point at RAW.
Whats so great about it? FOTR for TR was around long before RAW, but RAW must be better because its being made by z3r0x? Thrawns revenge have made all of their own models and skins, and have improved the game significantly, but R0x decides to make a clonewars mod so it must be better?
NO
Its n00bs. They all worship him becuaes he brought out a decent mod before, so they've all started worshiping him, despite raw being WORSE than thrawns revenge! The only reason RAW gets so much publicity is because of Z3R0X. You wouldnt all care if it were me or someone else making the EXACT same mod.
No
Its Z3R0X you love, not RAW.
FUCKING FANBOYS.
Oh yes, we couldnt have a rant without mentioning Nomada.
Nomada firefox...
What to say about him...
Personally, i hate the guy. He was a lier, thief.etc. We all know this...
So what happened?
He decided to 'claim' responsibility for his actions. So now of course all the nubs want to see his mod which has been shittily put together with crappy skins and models stolen from everywhere were he allegedly has permission. Its so shit. Have you seen the screenshots? the quality of it is crap. But the ships are new, so of course the fucking n00bs want to grab at it and steal it and make it for themselves. They just want new stuff, no matter how shitty it is.
And he just adds everything. No care for balance, or showmanship, just addes every piece of shit out there.
Now, because im on a role.
Jedi Consular.
I have NO grieveances against you, and this is not a criticism of you in the slightest. I know you probably dont expect this from me, but just listen. I hope this doesnt affect our friendship.
SOTE.
Two years ago we were preparing to release it....
What the hell?
What happened?
Oh yeah, someone suggested something else. Of course. Something else to add. Oh yeah, and the other thing. Lets add SOMETHING ELSE....Do you see what im getting at. You just need to learn to say no sometimes.
No offence but you've let it get a little out of hand. You've just let anything people have suggested be added to the mod, and tbh thats not such a good thing. You've created a brilliant mod, which will STILL be fun to play, but you've added too much depth. Its not a quick, fun game like EAW should be. Its too full. In the last alpha it took 15 days to upgrade station 1 to two....15 days...What the hell?
It shouldnt be that long.
Im sorry that im critisizing SOTE, but i feel i have to.
So yeah. I may have hurt some feelings today, but this community has turned into a shithole, and tbh thats why i dont want to be involved in it anymore.
So good bye to all and to all a good night
~DV
Ok.. So where do I begin?
Let me give you some background Daft Vader has been in the community for some time. He came around during the influx of 2nd Gen mods. When all the kids were flocking around Sonic and his crappy mods. Either way enough about history. He has worked on several mods, and is or was on staff of several mods one of which is TR. Now, for a while DV was staff on RaW and he rigged 3 space units for raw. The NTB bomber (which I re-rigged and now works perfect) the Trade Federation Cruiser (which we are not using) and the CIS Pickett (which I had to re-rig). Well, he was absent a long time, and removed him from staff. DV sent me several PM's which I wont post here asking me why he was removed and can I put him back. All of which were ignored. So, last flash forward a bit. TR announces they are about dead. I got a hold of Arbiter and told him I would help in anyway I could to get his mod done. I dont want to see TR die. We had a long discussion on how to get his mod done. He was to meet with his remaining staff and see what can go on. DV shows up now out of the blue, after his 165th grounding, computer crash, Alien Abduction, Sickness, or whatever the fuck keeps him from being online, and wants to jump right back into the community. Ok, now let me address this rant of his.
Why should they? People are excited! Here is a tidbit. How about you SHUT THE FUCK UP!
How do you know? You have no idea. You rigged 3 ships and your the expert?
Correction my young friend. We are not using ANY warlords models. Wait, I take that back, we are using ONE. Every model we have was made FOR IA2/RAW. We are using 4 models from the FOC Addon of mine. All of those were re-skinned and or Re-animated to meet our new expectations, so again where do you get your info from bro? TR makes their own models? So what.. So do we! Get your facts straight.What legal battle ensued? Please share with me!
What improvements? You have no idea what we have done? Lets see we have added tiered battlegroups, built in command ranks, in system hyperjumps, new types of death clones, new economic features and structures, new improved AI, and tech systems, shall I go on? Get your facts straight. So FOTR must be better as they have been around longer? Shall we compare models and animations, and skins? I am sure TR has some stuff that may be better than ours, and I am postive we have some stuff, that will be far better than TR. However I guess that doesnt matter if our quality is better, as according to you what makes TR better is "They made their own stuff". Hmmm, interesting as we made our own stuff.. so what does that mean?
Worse? Its not out.. how is it worse? Ohhh right we are back to the whole "We made our own stuff" argument. I think I squashed that. I think you need to back to being grounded bud.
Whats made it a shithole is you and your kabal of asshole friends DV. Codeuser, and others. Shut the fuck up already and PRODUCE something. All you clowns do is rant about who stole what, who is getting more credit, and blah blah blah blah. Jesus, really.. stfu already. No one cares, so go cry yourself a river. Interestingly enough.. all of those clowns (well most of them) all came from AOSW, and before that the CNC modding community, which I might add is a bigger shithole than EAW/FOC could ever aspire to be. You kids are like locusts. What you ruin your old community so then you move onto another, and another? Really.. gtfo already.
By Daft Vader..
Reposted here by ME
Quote:
Hi all
I've been in this community for a while and i'd like to think i was a respected member of it. I've followed many mods from the start and seen them rise to greatness, without yet being completed. However, recently i've been seeing RAW and following it too, but i am now FURIOUS at whats been happening.
Now dont get me wrong, raw IS a good mod by some of the best modders in the community, and i think it will be one of the best mods for EAW. But will you all please shut the fuck up about it.
Everywhere i go i see a fucking hoard of fanboys begging z3r0x for a titbid of information, or to show them something they've seen a million times before.
Dudes, let him finish the mod.
It really pisses me off to see so many idiots clamoring for information about the mod which, althought it'll be good, wont meet your expectations. If you make up in your mind that it'll be the best mod ever, you may find yourselves dissapointed, so just calm it and let rox finish the mod
Now, copycats.
I know you all want a good clone wars mod, and there are two coming to you. Thrawns Revenge: Fall of the Republic and also Republic at war. Now why not just WAIT a few fucking months and get a DECENT mod, instead of your own crappy slapdash using the same shit every other bugger has used before???
What makes RAW and FOTR stand out from all the other clone wars mods is that they have unique stuff, that hasnt been used before. RAW does use warlords models, which have been largely used before, but they also use some new ones. The Thrawns revenge mod is even better, becuase they make their OWN models. They dont scrounge off of mods like z3r0x FOC addon, (The credits of which were hazy), and caus a fucking legal battle.
Will all of you just wait for these mods for gods sakes. They'll be better than you can make. Patience is a virtue.
Now, my final point at RAW.
Whats so great about it? FOTR for TR was around long before RAW, but RAW must be better because its being made by z3r0x? Thrawns revenge have made all of their own models and skins, and have improved the game significantly, but R0x decides to make a clonewars mod so it must be better?
NO
Its n00bs. They all worship him becuaes he brought out a decent mod before, so they've all started worshiping him, despite raw being WORSE than thrawns revenge! The only reason RAW gets so much publicity is because of Z3R0X. You wouldnt all care if it were me or someone else making the EXACT same mod.
No
Its Z3R0X you love, not RAW.
FUCKING FANBOYS.
Oh yes, we couldnt have a rant without mentioning Nomada.
Nomada firefox...
What to say about him...
Personally, i hate the guy. He was a lier, thief.etc. We all know this...
So what happened?
He decided to 'claim' responsibility for his actions. So now of course all the nubs want to see his mod which has been shittily put together with crappy skins and models stolen from everywhere were he allegedly has permission. Its so shit. Have you seen the screenshots? the quality of it is crap. But the ships are new, so of course the fucking n00bs want to grab at it and steal it and make it for themselves. They just want new stuff, no matter how shitty it is.
And he just adds everything. No care for balance, or showmanship, just addes every piece of shit out there.
Now, because im on a role.
Jedi Consular.
I have NO grieveances against you, and this is not a criticism of you in the slightest. I know you probably dont expect this from me, but just listen. I hope this doesnt affect our friendship.
SOTE.
Two years ago we were preparing to release it....
What the hell?
What happened?
Oh yeah, someone suggested something else. Of course. Something else to add. Oh yeah, and the other thing. Lets add SOMETHING ELSE....Do you see what im getting at. You just need to learn to say no sometimes.
No offence but you've let it get a little out of hand. You've just let anything people have suggested be added to the mod, and tbh thats not such a good thing. You've created a brilliant mod, which will STILL be fun to play, but you've added too much depth. Its not a quick, fun game like EAW should be. Its too full. In the last alpha it took 15 days to upgrade station 1 to two....15 days...What the hell?
It shouldnt be that long.
Im sorry that im critisizing SOTE, but i feel i have to.
So yeah. I may have hurt some feelings today, but this community has turned into a shithole, and tbh thats why i dont want to be involved in it anymore.
So good bye to all and to all a good night
~DV
Ok.. So where do I begin?
Let me give you some background Daft Vader has been in the community for some time. He came around during the influx of 2nd Gen mods. When all the kids were flocking around Sonic and his crappy mods. Either way enough about history. He has worked on several mods, and is or was on staff of several mods one of which is TR. Now, for a while DV was staff on RaW and he rigged 3 space units for raw. The NTB bomber (which I re-rigged and now works perfect) the Trade Federation Cruiser (which we are not using) and the CIS Pickett (which I had to re-rig). Well, he was absent a long time, and removed him from staff. DV sent me several PM's which I wont post here asking me why he was removed and can I put him back. All of which were ignored. So, last flash forward a bit. TR announces they are about dead. I got a hold of Arbiter and told him I would help in anyway I could to get his mod done. I dont want to see TR die. We had a long discussion on how to get his mod done. He was to meet with his remaining staff and see what can go on. DV shows up now out of the blue, after his 165th grounding, computer crash, Alien Abduction, Sickness, or whatever the fuck keeps him from being online, and wants to jump right back into the community. Ok, now let me address this rant of his.
Why should they? People are excited! Here is a tidbit. How about you SHUT THE FUCK UP!
How do you know? You have no idea. You rigged 3 ships and your the expert?
Correction my young friend. We are not using ANY warlords models. Wait, I take that back, we are using ONE. Every model we have was made FOR IA2/RAW. We are using 4 models from the FOC Addon of mine. All of those were re-skinned and or Re-animated to meet our new expectations, so again where do you get your info from bro? TR makes their own models? So what.. So do we! Get your facts straight.What legal battle ensued? Please share with me!
What improvements? You have no idea what we have done? Lets see we have added tiered battlegroups, built in command ranks, in system hyperjumps, new types of death clones, new economic features and structures, new improved AI, and tech systems, shall I go on? Get your facts straight. So FOTR must be better as they have been around longer? Shall we compare models and animations, and skins? I am sure TR has some stuff that may be better than ours, and I am postive we have some stuff, that will be far better than TR. However I guess that doesnt matter if our quality is better, as according to you what makes TR better is "They made their own stuff". Hmmm, interesting as we made our own stuff.. so what does that mean?
Worse? Its not out.. how is it worse? Ohhh right we are back to the whole "We made our own stuff" argument. I think I squashed that. I think you need to back to being grounded bud.
Whats made it a shithole is you and your kabal of asshole friends DV. Codeuser, and others. Shut the fuck up already and PRODUCE something. All you clowns do is rant about who stole what, who is getting more credit, and blah blah blah blah. Jesus, really.. stfu already. No one cares, so go cry yourself a river. Interestingly enough.. all of those clowns (well most of them) all came from AOSW, and before that the CNC modding community, which I might add is a bigger shithole than EAW/FOC could ever aspire to be. You kids are like locusts. What you ruin your old community so then you move onto another, and another? Really.. gtfo already.
