Woah woah woah. We totally forgot something.

Katana fleet! The dreadnaughts from the clone wars found after the battle of endor! Though their crew size is inexcusably large for the mere size of the ship, i think they are a CRITICAL asset to maintain.

They ARE canon. Lucas accepts the Timothy zahn series as such. Heir to the empire, w/e the second one was, and last command.

Those are prettymuch canon, and did mention the katana fleet. So, in all respect for the amazing writing of this trilogy, and canon if we're so damned into it, we should include The Katana Fleet. Comprised of quite a few dreadnaughts.

I'm basically saying, that if they can't make the standard release, for all that is warsish. Put them in the expansion

Katana Fleet was lost before the Clone Wars began and didn't play a part in the Clone Wars so why would they be in game? The date of dissaperence is roughly sometime before or during the time between Phantom Menace and the Attack of the Clones, depending on which source is canon. They were not found until Grand Admiral Thrawn, in 9 ABY when he acquired 178 of the 200 dreadnaughts of the Katana fleet.

However they could put the Dreadnaught for a filler unit as there were a couple dreadnaughts active during the time of the Clone Wars however they were crewed by Republic volunteers to save the better ships to be crewed by Clones.

Oh.

Well, it would be cool to have it as buildable. I don't see why not.

Because when the Clone Wars began Katana fleet already existed (and lost propably).

The most important question : Did it fight in the clone wars ? If yes, name one battle they fought in. If no, it's settled.

What ships did katana fleet have?

It was a fleet of 200 ships of the Dreanaught class Heavy Cruiser, which extensively made use of slave drive wiring to reduce the crew compliment down from 16k to about 2k, all of the ships could be directed using the flag ship of the fleet, The Katana, which in a accident the Katana made a random hyperspace jump and since all of the other ships were linked to the Katana they jumped as well.

As far as actual setup goes though I have no idea if they featured any upgraded guns or anything of that nature besides the slave circut drives, I do know that Dreadnaught class had been in use already for a while before the fleet was formed, hence it was becoming more obsolete by the year, but by no means was the Dreadnaught class ineffective, just compared to the newer ships it was.

Before the clones who faught for the Republic?

humans and other species

There were academies?

yeah they recruited them the same way we do today.

Why non of them appeared on the movies?Besides the cruiser on ep1.

why should there be troopers in ep1? There was no real war and it had been peace for thousands of years so i dont think they had an army at ep1

If the Republic had its own army in Episode 1, the clones wouldn't be that much necessary...

if they'd had an army i dont think the CIS would have been formed.

Why ? Dooku and Sidious would still have worked silently in the background to form the CIS.

From my understanding of things the Republic had a military prior to the Clone Wars but the loss of the Katana fleet dealt a blow to an attempted building of a military force, after which the Senate didn't want to contribute more money to something they didn't think was needed. I'm not sure what they intended Katana fleet to be used for, my guess is anti piracy.

As for the overall military I don't really think the Republic had too much in the way of ships and things prior to the Clone Wars, probably mostly the mentioned Dreadnaught class and maybe Consular classes, though even these were unarmed prior to being refitted in the Clone Wars.

I'm pretty sure one of reasons the CIS was formed was because of a lack of military strength on the Republic Side, I mean most nations have a military but the difference is that the Republic prior to the Clone Wars was more of a Defense Force rather then a standing military. Anyways the CIS probably saw a possible quick victory against a corrupt and undefunded Republic Military which is why when the Clones came out of nowhere on Geonosis it was probably quite a shock.

exactly my opinion. Some factions wouldn't probably have joint if they knew the republic had an grand army cus they knew that their homes was at high risk then.

And ep 2?

I'm sure Dooku knew about the army. He was with the Confederacy, but still played a fake role of not knowing anything when he was talking to Poggle the Lesser in AOTC . He's a big bad liar ! A liar with a purpose. One mission, one purpose... ( oh, it sounded like Kane in Tiberium wars ).

I dont understand why the Republic had no military.Hadnt the Sith trying to overthrow them for millenia? didnt they think the Sith might attack again?

in ep2 the CIS was already formed and had gone to war if they would split up now it would be the same things as surrender and the loosers are always treated as the bad guys and they would pay for killing some jedis and clones and so on.

Yes venator ure right Dooky knew very well of that the Republic had an army comming he just didnt knew when the republic was gonna use it. Jango probably told him on Genosis that there had been a jedi on the cloning facility which told Dooku that the republic knew they had an army. It was just a question of time before they were gonna use it. In the end of AOTC he tells Sidious that the plans are going forward that the war has begun.

And how would the sith build up an army to overthrow the republic?

They couldn't gather an army, you're right, Grievous.


But the interesting part is that there was an ancient and long-forgotten super-massive and powerful Sith army somewhere in the unknown regions ina an unknown planet waiting to be activated by the New Sith. It's very stupid that Sidious didn't know about that army, because he could have used it right away to aid the already established Imperial rule, and a mere Dathomir nightsister found that army and activated it (the ending scene of FOC).

What happened after that, no one knows... at least until they make FOC 2 or something...

It was a Sith ARMY?????????????????
No kidding!!!

What are you talking about ?

The Sith Army is all speculavtive though for the most part was it enough of an army? That being so what was it's nature? Even that being so, consider this, you must understand by Palpatines time things had changed much as far as Sith go, Darth Banes Rule of Two saw to that, Palpatine had all the plans he needed to overthrow the Republic he didn't need any Sith army when he could just convert one out of the ashes of the Republic.

I'm sure Dooku knew about the Clones, and when they'd be used, everything, because by the time the Clone Wars started on Geonosis Dooku's alligence had already been turned to something besides the CIS's agenda. You may dispute on what Dooku beleived but maybe when Sidious told Dooku of his plan Dooku figured it was much easier to do what Sidious had planned rather then actually attempt a win with the CIS. Either that or Dooku had indeed taken the Sith's agenda as his own by that point.

As for no military, it's not true I've stated this, the Republic had a military, just it wasn't much beyond anit piracy/small insurgencies etc, it wasn't prepared to take on something like the CIS. The Jedi were largely responsible for rooting out a Sith threat when and if it ever appeared, by Palpatines time the Sith had been underground for a way long time, escaping the notice of everyone, so why make a full scale military for a threat that you don't think is there?

This all goes back to things like the Stark Hyperspace War and loss of the Katana Fleet, on one hand you have a force that was adaquete for a job, including having the Jedi on your side, then on the other side you have a costly venture of building a fleet which fails completely and waste billions of credits worth of resources.

Fact is no one saw the Sith as a threat except maybe the Jedi, and no one saw the CIS as a threat, to the Republic at the time they seemed like small threats that accompany all eras.

I quoted your statement! What do you mean what i mean???
You said it was a Sith army in that cave.Is it true?

Yeah. There's even a few sith jedi.

check it out in the map editor.

Was it a Sith army or not??? Dont leave me in agony.

Sith army, along with some droid batallions.

Dude, what did they look like to you?

Did you ever play KOTOR Republic21?

One of my favourite games.Why?
I am talking about FoC.

Dude, pay attention. At the end, those are KOTOR era sith.

duh >_>

NO KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sith troopers were they?