This is an idea for how large transports (i.e. juggernauts, SPHAs....)
Instead of having Venator's, Acclamators landing on the planet straining system resources, a simple idea would to just have the sound effects the landing ship in the background off the range of the map. The vehicles will roll in to the reinforcement point that you have chosen. What do you guys think about this.

I'm not really sure you can have vehicles come in from the off-side of the map, and if that's not possible, than it'd look pretty dumb to have a vehicle just appear and then roll into the DZ.

I just want so many transports to be carried in a Venator, Acclamator, or whatever, then in ground battles, they just send down the individual transports. Not sure if it's codeable, though.



I think there have been three or so threads going on about stuff like this, and I still haven't seen a response from a staff member. However, I doubt this particular idea is codeable.

It sounds like a good idea, but what if one of the RPs is on an isolated island, and then it would look stupid if an AT-TE or Clonetrooper was walking on water, and before anyone suggests having a transport ship coming to drop them off from the edge of the map, you have to think about the staff needing to code that in.

Good point, but the point about an island reinforcement point is that there has to be at least one for/peninsular connecting it to the mainland. This way the Reinforcements will simply move from the closest mainland off-map area to the RP.
For platform maps like Kamino and Bespin, there would be 4 "Reinforcement" pathways connecting to the main platforms on all sides of the map.



Right well, Republic Gunships will probably turn out to be Transports for infantry and minor heroes as well as Gunships making it a unique unit. But dude I can’t imagine a juggernaut be pulled in by a Republic Gunship.

The gunships, as far as I know, aren't the transport used by the Republic. CR20s or CR40s are used, can't remember which one.

As the staff say don’t trust the unit lists.

Republic gunships were used for almost all land invasions, from Geonosis to Utapau.
CR40 Cruisers were hardly ever used for milirary combast and were never used as troop transports. CR20 Carriera were only ever used for small raids and covert missions, like in Clone Wars Volume 3 where obiwan and anakin lead a platoon of clones to am Arctic planet.

Of course you mean Clone Wars volume 2 when they went to scout out "strange geothermal readings" in sector 8. But if Venators don't land on the surface, how will the Juggernauts land?

Some people could ask the same thing about AT-ATs if they didn't know about AT-AT Barges, so i guess the staff are going to come up with something like an AT-AT barge to transport the Juggernaughts down to the planets surface, it's logical thinking.

Yeah but people could ask the same thing about Juggernauts parasailing to the ground if they didn’t know about Venators

Nah, not so good idea. It would look kinda stupid.

Dude I was being sarcastic.

Gunships only transport troops and equipment through atmosphere, not space. In terms of a space transport, we'll probably see either the CR20 or CR25.

For bigger vehicles, it will take some kind of big transport for realism. However, due to the seemingly (at least the vibe I get from modders) nearly un-addon moddable (meaning every mod has to be in the original parameters of the game) status of this game, the big tanks will still probably brought down by CR20s.

The problem also is bad for the CIS. So far, the only CIS transports are massive, vehicle transports. My idea of smaller VACs for infantry and light vehicles was shot down, so for even a single squad of Battle Droids, a gigantic C-9979 will slowly land and burp out the droid troops.

Meh.

I agree and part of my idea was to make sure that all republic transports would never see space simply by pretending that Venators Hover in the Mesosphere of upper troposphere and deploy gunships and barges through the use of sound effects.
Either way no army would leave transports in a space battle if the was a lucrehulk or venator in the same fleet.



For any tanks used by the republic they will probably come down in large barges.



I guess you could code it so that a C-9979 can have say 10 groups (of 4) of AATs and 5 MTTs plus many OOM-Series, B1, OOM Commanders, Droidekas, and B2 Battle droids. What would happen is that if you have a Trade Federation Reinforcements in orbit you will start the battle with a C-9979, if you have Techno Union Reinforcements a Hardcell-class interstellar transport will land the same with other corporations. When the transport lands it stays, you deploy reinforcements normally and they come out of the land without the idea of it landing and it taking off.

I mean the idea. It would be kinda odd, you know!

Yes! Why didn't I think of that before! The hardcell will probably be used as the CIS' transport!

However in Rpublic Commando in the prolouge you see a CR40 taking on a RGS. A CR40 can hold up to 8 RGS's. So i definatley say the CR40 is the transport of chocie. NO RGS contray to popular belief the LAAT series cannot fly in space. But the HAET can but it is more of a tank then transport. But the SPHA_-T's Definatly need the Acclamters to be brought down on a planet. What would be intersesting is if in space battle you have ALL Transpots on Ships.

Yeah. That's why the Clone Wars series specifically shows them. Given that's a canon source they can fly in space dude.



A CR40 dwould definately not hold an ATTE/Juggernaught/SPHAT though. I agreee an Acclamator or Venator would be good to land those.

The Clone Wars cartoons also show

- The Seperatist fleet over Coruscant made up exclusively of Providence-class ships
- Mace Windu flying a damaged Vulture droid
- Droids on motorbikes ses lances to lift up and explode AT-TE's
- Droids on motorbikes exploding SPHA-T's by scratching them
- Gunships that magically change colour
- Gunships completely lacking the side mounted 'bubble' guns
- Gunshis whose doors completely enclose the cabin

Need I continue? The whole 'gunships in space' thing was a plot device used by the animators to keep the episode moving quickly, as seeing the Acclamators go into the planet's atmosphere, deploying gunships, and then going back into space to fight would have taken too long.

I think that these might be related and, seeing as the second ARC gunship was painted like a shark, I'm guessing that there were a few more differences than a wacko paintjob. Overall, you're right, but ARC's are important to me.

Prudii - all of the Gunships in the cartoon have the same problems, not just the ARC gunship.

Darth Windu first the LAAT/i is equipped with atmospheric containment shields so thay could fly in space. Secondly thay have sliding doors. And thirdly when did the gun ships change cullers. The Clone Wars cartoons may have non canon material in them but thay are manly canon.

We've already had an in-depth discussion about the LAAT issue, Windu, and as I recall you lost against Admirison and about four or five members. Please don't bring this up again, it's canon and that's final.

I don't really give a crap about the LAAT/i, in fact, I like it when people argue about it because then they don't argue about the Venator.

I still can't see why there can't be VACs...they work so well...

jedi1 - first off a friendly suggestion, please use correct spelling and grammar. If it helps, write your reply in Microsoft Word (or something similar), use the spelling & grammar check, and then post your message.

Anyway the Gunships may or may not have shields for that, no-one knows. With the doors issue yes they do close, but if you look at AotC and RotS they don't close all the way. Finally with the colour change it's in the episode of the cartoons when they attack Muunilust. The Gunship carrying the ARC's is black instead of red, and then when its flying by itself it changes back to red. Hence the 'changing colours'.

Republic Gunships have sliding doors so one section of the door slides out from the other enclosing the entire troop cabin. Have you ever played Republic Commando because they close properly in that too?

jedi1 - yep, I have played RC. However, go and look at AotC and RotS - both of those films show the Gunships with a single door that when closed, does not enclose the cabin. Also you're talking about segmented sliding doors, which the gunships dont have.

Enough, there have been far too many LAAT debates on this forum and there won't be another.

what would be really cool would be if there were Acclamators (with like a different paint scheme or somthing) instead of whatevers going to land stuff,except they hold more than one unit, say 2 trooper battalions and an AT-TE group so that way if they got destroyed you would still have a GROUP of unit not just one trooper battalion. but the the Acclamators wouldent actuly land the troops the gunships and landers etc would actuly deploy then but the Acclamators would hold them in space. cus you wouldent just send out a lone gunship in space would you? no you would store them on an Acclamator then when the Acclamator lands you would send out the landers to the the battlefield. like on on geonosis, they didnt send LAATs into battle. they landed the Acclamators which then would offload troops which would in turn get into gunships for the short trip to the battlefield. catch my drift? and sry for the gravedigging.

ok starsus KNOCK IT OFF! uve been gravedigging this whole month and now u do it again but this time an topic that is 2 years old! Revan plz give him an week ban or something

Same opinion as Grievous. He deserves a week ban.